P: I am glad that finally we have managed to meet. I have been looking forward to our meeting. How can I introduce you?
AB: I am ShivBaba’s student. At last, after years of professional studies and practice, after years of going into scriptures of law, those considered to be divine and those considered to be human, I feel that I have really started studying. Moreover, it seems to me that I started to understand a bit. I started to understand that earlier I was living and working in a total illusion for years.
P: I have heard that now you are rather unwilling to reveal all your titles and achievements in the past.
AB: Why should I add to this flood of information in the world? My name, surname, certificates, titles are of no importance. Nowadays a title and name can be bought. However, no one can buy experience. We can’t simulate experience. We can simulate lack of experience. Great masters use this method sometimes, in order to help their disciples to make a step ahead and not to keep a great distance between the master and a disciple. My present title is “one of ShivBaba’s students”. I am proud and happy that he is my teacher. People who know me and knew me previously witnessed a great transformation that he brought about in my life. Some of them are starting liking it and more and more often they are asking how they could study like me. I use all my contacts and experience gained before to spread the knowledge of my Master for our common good. This is a wonderful and powerful knowledge that liberates the human mind, but enters it with difficulty.
P: If this knowledge is powerful and the Master is great, why does it enter it with difficulty?
AB: It is very difficult to overcome human arrogance that grows back again and again like Ravan’s heads that Ram was cutting with his arrows in the Ramayana. ShivBaba is explaining that those 10 heads of Ravan symbolize the arrogance of our world: the hell of various opinions, views, languages, paths, laws, religions and so on. Everyone thinks that he is right. Ram’s arrows are the arrows of knowledge. Using them the Highest Legislator annihilates our arrogance, if we don’t accept what he is telling us with love. When thanks to ShivBaba I understood how arrogant I was, I became horrified, overpowered and I couldn’t sleep for hundreds days.
P: When you felt that you had been living and working in illusion for many years, didn’t you feel deceived, didn’t you feel that it had been a nonsense and waste of time?
AB: Oh no! Also today I can see that if I hadn’t done all that, I couldn’t have been where I am now. ShivBaba explains to us that this is a great world drama that has a perfect scenario. Everything in this drama fits accurately and there is no question of waste. What is more, everything is beneficial.
P: Where we were talking initially, you said that Dharma is for you the most interesting issue in ShivBaba’s teachings. What is Dharma?
AB: ShivBaba explains that Dharma is the highest law or order established in the human world of creation (manushya srishti) by incorporeal Shiva, who is acting in it through a human body during the Confluence Age of the world cycle that is the period of 1936/7-2036. He creates the community of so-called “double-born Brahmins”, meaning the ones who recognize Shiva in his roles played through Brahma (mother) and next through Prajapita (father). In other words, they are born in knowledge twice. Shiva through the instrument of the human body explains to these Brahmins what are the rules and principles of the universe and gives them guidance how and what kind of deeds they should perform. This guidance is called in ShivBaba’s language ‘shrimat’. This is a compound word; shri means ‘supreme, most elevated, saint’, mat – ‘intellect’ (mati), and also ‘opinion’. Shiva who is the Intellect of the intellects gives the most elevated guidance how the human should live and act, in other words how to be a noble man (arya). The Brahmins listening to those guidance from the mouth of Shiva’s instrument should assimilate them and practice them in order to transform themselves from degraded human beings living at the end of the Iron Age (that is now) into perfect beings and enable the others to do the same. This practice is called dharna. ShivBaba says that Dharma and dharna are actually the same as Dharma itself is useless if it has not been put into practice. When I experienced this, I understood that the human law is a non-living meaningless record in paper. It exists today, tomorrow there is no trace of it.
Dharma is eternal and it is beyond everything. It means that no one and nothing will change this law that drives the world of the human creation. That is why it can be called the Universal Divine Law, the Highest Constitution or Decorum. ShivBaba says that neither being alive nor dead we can escape or avoid Dharma. There is no mercy or pardon in Dharma, there are no relatives or acquaintances. There is the act (karm), its cause, its result and the balance of karmic account. The account of actions for the ones who are not aware of Dharma principles is 1:1. The account of actions for the ones who are aware of them, meaning for already mentioned Brahmins, are on the level of 1:100, 1:1000 or even more. It means that both reward and punishment are relevant multiplication of the value of the action in question. No one can ask Dharma for mercy. One can only show mercy on oneself by studying and following the principles of Dharma. Once someone was born in knowledge in the Confluence Age that means he started being aware of Dharma and then betrayed it, for instance he gave up the path of knowledge, he violated the principles of this path, even the shortest point, he will be punished. He may try to hide himself even ‘where the world ends’ or commit a suicide, Dharma will reach him, because Dharma is for the soul, not for the body. There is no escape. No matter where someone was born in this life, his eternal Dharma recorded in that eternal soul that he is, travels with him and when the time comes that Dharma reveals itself with a great power. That Dharma established by Shiva in the Confluence Age is called Adi Sanatan Dharm, meaning adi – beginning, sanatan ¬– eternal, dharm – here: law. It is the Eternal Law established at the so-called ‘beginning of time’. The beginning of time is the Confluence Age, the present time, when the end of one cycle combines with the beginning of the next one. ShivBaba explains to us that the human history is like a show and its scenario repeats eternally. It means that the end and the beginning become one point. Everything, each soul and each atom have to go back to the place from where they started their travel through the cycle.
P: I tried to prepare myself for our meeting and gathered some points for discussion. The next one on my list is the concept of ‘action’. What does ShivBaba teach about this?
AB: ShivBaba says that the human soul is destined to action (karm), to performance. No one can get out of this flow of action in which we are. The ones who are trying to renounce action, for instance they sit in meditation for hours, they go to hermitage, they want to renounce the world in a physical way, are actually acting against Dharma. ShivBaba calls them ‘sannyasi’. He uses this term referring to the entire world, not only to the Indian sanyasi. He teaches that it is not action, but the fruit of action that should be renounced. It means, one should act and desire nothing, neither praise nor defame. It is not this physical world, but spreading vice in it (falsehood, arrogance, anger, greed, desire, attachment) that should be renounced. And it must be done here and now, in this life, through this body. If we don’t do this, if we keep on violating the Highest Law, that Law as the Lord of Law, meaning Dharmraj, will destroy us. And the same will happen cycle after cycle, because the history has only one scenario, it always repeats and its so-called shooting is taking place right now, in the Confluence Age.
ShivBaba teaches that there are three kinds of action. The first one is called ‘sukarm’, in other words the act that has been performed according to Law. It brings positive results, happiness. The second one is ‘vikarm’, in other words the act that has been performed against Law. It brings negative results, sorrow. The third one is ‘akarm’, the neutral act, meaning the act that has been performed in the stage of soul consciousness. It doesn’t bring any results for the performer. The Bhagavad Gita refers to this stage and states that a person in the atmanisht stage (the stage of the full remembrance ‘I am a soul’) may bring about the destruction of the entire world and he won’t be stained by a sin. There is also a popular saying: ‘You will recognize them seeing fruits of their actions’. ShivBaba says that everyone’ life, relationships, possibilities, interests in their last birth depend on what they have been doing in their previous births and what kind of karmic account they have created. And now, depending on what they do in this last birth, it will influence their births in the next cycle. This is Law. There are souls that perform great spiritual efforts in the Confluence Age. For instance, the soul playing the role of the World Father, Prajapita. In his last birth he makes such efforts that he achieves the highest spiritual position among all human souls. He achieves the stage equal to Shiva’s stage and that is why people in the path of devotion combined his name with Shiva and say ‘Shiva-Shankar’.
P: And what is the connection of Dharma with the law in other religions?
AB: Dharma is the source of law for all human religions, starting from Abraham’s religion. ShivBaba explains that in the Confluence Age the souls playing the roles of the religious fathers, for instance Abraham, Buddha, Christ, Shankaracarya, Mohammad, Guru Nanak, Maharishi Dayanand and others recognize the father Shiva acting through the human body, come across his knowledge and assimilate it to a certain extend. In this way, they acquire some special spiritual attributes or imprints (sankara), which reveal themselves when the time of their roles as religious fathers comes again in the next cycle. In turn, the souls who are the spiritual mothers of those spiritual fathers have been gathered in the Brahma Kumaris society. When the turn of the human show is coming to its end, there is the final scene and all masks fall down. All the actors stand together on the scene and it comes to the final revelation who is who, where, in what religion they play their eternal roles in their births and how it happens. The spiritual mothers of those religions, meaning the Brahma Kumaris, will give births to their spiritual progeny according to how they have assimilated Dharma in the Confluence Age.
P: Well, it means that the Brahma Kumaris are also studying Dharma?
AB: Yes. In the entire world. In this country since approximately 1985. It is what the official records are saying.
P: Could you reveal some points of Dharma that ShivBaba teaches?
AB: ShivBaba’s teachings are open to the public through the Internet. One only needs to write ‘ShivBaba’ and click. Hundreds or even thousands pages with ShivBaba’s classes open and everybody can receive his teachings. In all his classes he talks about Dharma, benefits from following and practicing Dharma and results of violating it. All the classes are free of costs and for all. However, please remember that there are many sites pretending to be ShiBaba’s. Those sites show him as a point suspended in vacuum. It is a lie that has been spread in the world. ShivBaba didn’t die. He is alive, he feels very well and he meets his spiritual students and children personally. He is looking after them with great love. An attentive eye of the one who is really looking for the real ShivBaba will recognize the false prophets immediately.
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Text from: http://abrahamus.blog.co.uk/
